Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Udaipur Trip with hotel as Udai Niwas
“It's good decision to choose Udai Niwas as hotel. Initially I booked for 1 day then I extended it for 2 more days.
Staff was very cooperative and helpful. Restaurant sun & moon above Udai Niwas make tastiest kadai paneer I ever ate. Breakfast was also good.“
-Iitg_Sumit, 3 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“Mine was a family trip. Hotel location though isolated, but Google will help you locate the hotel with ease. We had a comfortable stay. Front office was very cooperative. Appreciate room service, it was quick.“
-Nithin C, 27 Apr 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“Stayed with family for 3 nights. 2 young kids (aged 7 and 9), wife and myself.
Spacious rooms, quite clean and a great 5th floor restaurant with 360 degree view of Udaipur. Attitude of staff is good. Many tourist locations (lake pichola, Bagore ki haveli, Jagdish temple and City Palace) and many goo“ d eateries are within walking distance (200- 400 metres). Overall a good experience.
I am reading quite a few negative reviews here. It appears they relate to old trips. The hotel has been renovated in early 2017 and this reflects in its current offering.
-Sanju S, 6 Nov 2017 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Best hotel in Udaipur
“Best ambience.. Best staff.. Owner Mrs sumita rajje very helpful and best personality I met in Udaipur.. Should try this hotel..near to every tourist point.. Near to city center.. Restaurant in the rooftop having good ambiance..“
-rmanchanda063, 12 Feb 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
“The rooms are clean and fresh. The bed linen are clean. Staff is cooperative and willing to help. Hotel is near to lake City palace which is beautiful place to see. Go in morning. Quite place and market like hathi paul and suraj paul are at walkable distance.“
-Prashantambadekar, 31 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
“There was an amazing experience with Treebo Jhalamaan Hotel. Supporting staff and Specially Manager Mr.Dinesh Bhai was so helpfull and Good Nature. We met with Owner at the Hotel. She is also a good person“
-199vinesh, 31 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Worst experience at Treebo!!
“First, must mention it was cheap, at approx. 900/- per room per night, I thought it was a great deal! But I guess we got what we paid for!!Do not go with family, I had a small baby and my 74-year old mother.. bad idea to stay here!Day 1 - power kept going off. They could not start the generator. Wor“ se, Nobody informed us what was happening!!! We had gone to the terrace restaurant for lunch, then were stuck there for 30 mins!!! Nobody even bothered to come and explain - zero courtesy!!!Day 2 - early morning - went to the bathroom, No Water!!! Called the reception number of times, Nobody Picked the phone!!!! Called the property manager, she said she will call somebody, then After Waiting For 15-20 minutes more, water started trickling from the taps!!! Later I was told somebody had left the taps open in the night and the water got over - but Hello.. is that good enough reason to Inconvenience Your Guests??? What are the hotel staff Doing??? Counting stars??? Why Are They Not Aware that there is No Water in the taps????Day 3 - while rushing for checkout - I was asked to pay 400+/- for room service... since I had to rush for the airport, I paid without thinking much, forgot to take the bill. Later in the cab, was told by my wife that she had paid all the room bills!!! So, they Happily Doublecharged me for what was paid already!!!Another problem: Unhygienic/ Unclean: cockroaches all over the room!!! Found one on Day 3 morning on the wall next to the headboard of the bed!!! Worst place I have ever stayed!!! Only Benefit? Location. It is just 5 minutes away from the entrance to City Palace. But Just For Location benefits, will you stay with All The Inconveniences??? I Will Never Again Stay! Choose wisely.
-bijuho, 19 Oct 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Excellent Hospitality !!
“Recommended for All !! Go Ahead ! Location , Food , Pricing , everything at par ! Parents Stayed there, had a amazing time , Treebo always lived upto there reputation , one of the best this property .“
-subhojitb24, 8 Nov 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“We really enjoyed the trip to Udaipur with fantastic stay at Treebo Park Classic. The rooms are spacious, clean and well decorated. The staff was cooperative. Some delay in Breakfast but quality of food was good.“
-Roam07266188813, 28 Mar 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“Very warm hospitality, the rooms and the wash rooms are clean. The breakfast was delicious and not too spicy. The staff and the team were very helpful and assisted in providing great service all the time.“
-Ramy2727, 28 Nov 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Superb Budget Hotel
“One of the best hotels in Udaipur. The rooms have AC and are big. Very well maintained, neat and tidy. They have quite big attached bathroom. The hotel provides tea maker in the room. You get homely breakfast (Alu Paratha, Pohe, bread omelette, sometimes accompanied by fruits). The breakfast in“ simply delicious, mouth watering. The other advantages are its proximity to the city palace (just 3 kms from City Palace), there is an auto and taxi stand right in front on the property, hence it makes traveling very easy. The hotel is located on City Palace Road, which is enough to tell the auto or taxi and they take you there without any question.
-Murliritu, 21 Aug 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“Nice experience and overall good stay in hotel with nice breakfast and dinner.... management behaviour is eXcellent and cooperative especially shivraj ji and kirti ji are very nice .. such a nice place for stay“
-gaurav951, 9 Oct 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Perfect for center location and rooftop views
“Near Jagdish temple and city palace, rooms are very nice, do notice the mirror work on the reception terrace. The service is superb. Rooftop restaurant is quite the view.
Major attractions are nearby.“
-NiteshNainital, 16 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“Hi , we stayed for a night 20.11.2018at this place last week .though we had booked it , we got calls checking if we are sure of coming .only when we were heading to the place in our taxi ,we were told there is no way a car can reach their entrance .w had to park the car 150 meters away at jagdish t“ emple govt parking .the lift could take only 2 persons and was very slow.however at the reception , we were told that having booked the room in the category was not there , they were upgrading it which is bigger room with 2 beds queen size which was on 4 th floor .it reminded me of santorini greece where there are similar hotels but lot more cleaner .the access to the hotel was dusty and congested with absolutely no parking .the reception staff helped in shifting our luggage .next day the breakfast was mediocre and on 5 th floor terrace .overall it was not a good experience and not friendly for those who are on wheel chair or have back or knee problem ,the staircase is narrow in that a person to climb the stair , the person coming down has to reverse walk .i am not sure of fire safety as it looks like all by laws for safety are forgotten .
-Subash S, 26 Nov 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Amazing Property Close to Lake Pichola n Jagdish Mandir
“It's a Wowsome n Pleasant Feeling when You Check in the Room. Amazing n Excellent Hospitality being extended by Staff Members. Hotel's Roof Top Restaurant is Simply Fantabulous. It was an Electrifying Night out there. Thanks A Ton Udai Niwas Entire Staff members.“
-Trail41868615255, 6 May 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“we were charged for siting in the hotel cafetaria regardless we have already done the payment of hotel, it shall be included to sit in premises of hotel we have traveled and we were not being charged in other hotel in udaipur for sitting in cafetaria“
-varunshah2012, 7 Sep 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
ABOUT THE HOTEL
“It is a heritage hotel nothing grand. The taxi guy will drop you outside the lane and you have to either walk it up if you don't have luggage or you have to take a Rikshaw, which they have not mentioned in their site. The lift is only till the 1st floor and after that you have to walk it down. “ The hotel is just average not worth the money spent. Lot of noise in the night due to that we were not getting good sleep. Breakfast was good. Otherwise nothing great in the hotel.
-Daydream27983707873, 3 Feb 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Amazing Property with out of the world Hospitality
“Wowsome Fantabulous. It's one of the Best Hotel that I have ever stayed in Udaipur. Every single person at Udai Niwas was so helping in nature. Out of the world Hospitality extended by them. Their Roof Top Restaurant is is Wonderful Place to hand out and chill out with friends.“
-Explorer54042778703, 11 May 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
2 days stay at treebo park classic
“Nice experience at hotel, service is too good, food quality good, breakfast is too delicious, rooms are clean and spacious Value for money terrace restaurant is very good, table and chairs should be added on open terrace“
-Tour01464958878, 4 Feb 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“If you sit on the roof top restaurant especially evenings its mind blowing view on the lake,coming to room and food. Rooms are pretty decent neat and clean 24x7hot water supply, awesome food in the restaurant. We ordered fish tikka,laal maas,fish curry (it was yummy). 100% value for money.“
-geeta334, 18 Aug 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Not at all good
“First of all the hotel has no parking and on the day we arrived the road to the hotel was closed due to some local festival & the hotel knew that and did not even cared to inform us. We had to walk to the hotel. Room service is poor & took almost 40-45 minutes for getting water to the rooms.“ The hotel did not clean the room itself, we have to ask to get our room cleaned when we returned to the hotel at 5 in the evening. Staff was not very helpful. You need to improve a lot. Location is good but parking is a problem.
-NeerajC33, 2 Jul 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“Stay at udai Niwas was good.The service is very good.Staff is also very helpful,they made our travel easy and memorable one.service provided was quick.The view from hotel what we liked the most.Also,we can say centre point for many tourist attraction.“
-sangee881, 26 Feb 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Worth a Visit
“Everything is upto the mark. Food tastes very good based on the breakfast we had. Best part is the location, being in the city located in the most silent place keeping you away from the daily chaos of the roads.“
-Mehul B, 7 Feb 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Review of My Stay at Treebo Classic- Udaipur.
“1- Was missing Pick-up & drop facility
2- Interior of Rooms was not up to mark.
3- Faced Billing issues as far as Room Service is concerned. Not only in Treebo Park Classic, Udaipur but at other Treebo Locations also.“
-Explore17881879664, 5 Mar 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“We stayed in a deluxe room for 3 nights and are very much satisfied with the room and their services. Rooms are spacious, neat and clean. Morning breakfast has got varieties. Food is tasty and room service is quick.Front desk also helped in arranging taxi in a quick manner. Overall the stay was quit“ e satisfying.
-GoPlaces27629174437, 28 Dec 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Beyond Expectation Service
“Really Appreciate the Extended support of Staff.
Rooms were Very Clean
Location of Hotel is bit inside the main road but it helps to isolate onself from the traffic of the city.
Food is also very good.“
-Kuntal S, 8 Nov 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“Excellent facility in udaipur. Rooms were very neatly maintained and the design and decor also are of good standard. Centrally located and easy to move out to all sightseeing places in udaipur. Complimentary breakfast was also very nice with good no. of options.. Room service and other services pro“ vided were good. Definitely will recommend to my friends
-Daydream63386434831, 23 Nov 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“This is my first time stay in Udaipur....
Good location....Near by city centre ...
Cleanliness in room also good.... Breakfast very good ...So if I come again I prefer this hotel.....exce Excel. Thanks all staff members“
-SunilVerma078, 17 Jun 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Excellent service!! Value for money
“Everything was good rooms cleanliness. Worth to stay again n again but please add some more menu in dinner n lunch time.Also staff was very good n polite. It was good stay looking forward to visit again.“
-bharatikedare, 24 Jan 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Very good stay
“The staff is nice. The landlady of the property really takes good care of the guests. It was nice staying there. the dealing with guest is more casual than formal and i liked it a lot. The staff is really helpful“
-chandan_bokaro, 18 Nov 2017 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Comfortable and satisfactory stay
“The staff were very polite and helpful, room spacious and clean, service very prompt. And the view from rooftop is spectaculatlr! Being a solo traveller they ensures that I felt comfortable and safe. Overall a wonderful experience!“
-shamnasy, 27 Jul 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
“Very friendly staff. Was value for money.Very close to all the locations that is historically important. The staff also helped us to arrange for transport to the tourist locations and gave us a lot of sightseeing tips.“
-SwapnaSH, 16 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Had a nice stay
“Good property.... Clean....good food...worth price...Visited in Jan 2018....advice my friends to book this hotel compare to RTDC as rooms are clean and housekeeping excellent. Also location wise it is near to malls and market“
-debashishraha, 8 Jan 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Service Beyond expectation
“The hotel was very clean and beautiful with great lake view. The restaurant and food was good again with beautiful lake view. What makes this stay special for us was their hospitality. They were great hosts, flexible with our requirements and helping us even after checking out of their hotel. Defini“ tely recommend to anyone visiting Udaipur
-arpitgupta213, 2 May 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
A great place to be
“It's in the middle of everything! Much happening place and walkable distance to almost all tourist attractions, it has comfortable cozy rooms and good view from the roof top resto, though break fast menu was very limited and they don't have room service“
-princeAdv, 28 Dec 2017 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Big thanks to TREEBO & Mr. Ashwani
“Every thing is good n beyond xpactation. hard to find Hotel like this @ very LOW price, TREEBO Keep going, Big Thanks to Mr; Ashwani Prasad for your suggestion of this hotel. sorry for shearing your no. here 8178196325 Call him for best advice.“
-ashu788, 16 Aug 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
it was nice experience to stay in this hotel
“the hotel was good and nice to stay in this hotel, breakfast good, room service is well maintain, staff was friendly and corporate, there was proper cleanliness in the room and well maintain over all service“
-shakti singh m, 22 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Good value for money
“Hotel Jhalamaan is a good hotel in given budget. Breakfast is very good. No buffet in hotel so it is serviced in the room only. Hotel management is not cooperative in helping early arrived guests. Otherwise it's good one .“
-parvinder009, 18 Jan 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“Very fine experience.perfect location near Jay Jagdish temple.room service is average .i checked in 6am without extra payment and room was clean and decorate with Rajasthani pattern.i recommend on line booking for room.“
-anupam180618, 25 Jun 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Overall review about hotel treebo jhalamaan
“Nice hotel , nearby to city palace that's very nice because of walking distance. In the other hand there services , food quality are very good and the best thing about this hotel is..It is a very peaceful place to stay in udaipur.Overall good experience to stay in treebo trend jhalamaan, thank “ you .
-Discover27232345368, 1 Jun 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Our stay at Hotel Treebo Udai Niwas
“All and all very good experience. Room was spacious and clean, but view from room not good. Food was tasty and delivered very fast. Staff were also good in behaviour. Location is good, very near from city palace, jagdish Temple, lake and local market. You just reach there by walking and talking.“
-nsanwariya, 17 Jan 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
“It was a short and peaceful journay here.The owner as well as the co-staff were really helpful and also concerning for their guests. Service was excellent. It is very close to City palace which makes it easy to visit the Palace. Happy to stay further on visit to udaipur“
-Tourist54758928309, 26 May 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Awesome stay, bad food
“Happy with stay but breakfast was not good. Either they should add more items or remove suger from shaambhar.
Sweet shaambhar bada was only option for breakfast ( toast bread and milk powder tea was also there).
Overall experience of stay was good but disappointed with food.“
-DharmAtWorldTour, 23 Jul 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Rajasthan Year end tour
“Rooms are good , spacious and clean . washroom was good, hygiene is maintain for food, breakfast was good, staff was good. Its value for money treebo hotels are good.. road construction work was going on in front of Hotel causing little dust rest everything was good“
-Bhushan M, 2 Jan 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“identifying the location became difficult. Had to make two rounds to reach property. Landmark of opposite or neighboring of popular place need to be cited in the address, so that any local fellow can guide. Staff friendly, food good, room ok. Service very good.“
-Maps43294979767, 24 Jan 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Family stay at Udaipur
“I stayed with Family on 12th Nov 2018 for 2 nights. Location of Hotel is good from City Palace and Bagore ki Haveli. These are walking distance from hotel. Rooftop view of Lake Pichola is good. Food is ok. The rooms are good but entrance to the hotel is very narrow. Cars cannot come inside, The near“ est Car parking is at Chand Pol around 300 mtrs from hotel. Even the lobby is narrow and the list can only carry 3 persons at a time.
-Ganeshshetty2018, 17 Nov 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
UP TO THE MARK
“Need more variety, prompt service & cleanliness at the time of breakfast. Pick up & drop down facility may be adopted to facilitate the customers as the location is a little unknown, deeper and far from main city.“
-RAJESH2736, 28 Sep 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
“Hotel location is too complicated. But, one can reach using own ride from railway station. Staff is good. Room service is too good as they use to call and deliver breakfast in your room. Calm and windows view are good as Rose Garden on backyard.“
-Dream12462168097, 4 May 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
“Near to many tourist attraction. Rooms are OK. The night view from balcony is good. Couldn't see any menu card in the room hence I am not sure if room service is there. Anyways I never even asked for it. The best advantage is closeness to most of the tourist attraction although the hotel itself “ is in a bit narrow road hence sometimes you don't get taxis from the hotel itself but a short walk takes you to jagdish temple and you have plenty of options to commute from there. Rooftop restaurant is the main highlight. The view from there is breathtaking. Overall satisfied with my stay.
-amitsjalal, 25 Dec 2017 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
“The quality of food was good and delicious, property staff was good and cooperative. Location was good and back side of inox mall, they may have improve the quality of television and air conditioner with their remote“
-Travel10643151698, 29 Mar 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
NOT VALUE FOR MONEY
“Service was prompt and fast but not upto the mark. I found it to be over priced. Location is near to gulab bagh and lake pichola.We faced lot of issues staying in this hotel. Very much disappointed with this hotel.“
-Debottam P, 22 Oct 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Park Classic
Udaipur Treebo Trend Park Classic
“Positive - Good food and prompt service by staff.
Negative - We stayed for 3 nights. Rooms require maintenance - Air condition & intercom were not working inspite of changing rooms twice. Bathroom cleanliness is bad and room was not cleaned daily.“
-Pioneer55201852303, 9 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
“Bad room service. I called them for lunch and after half an hour some restaurant guy came to take order.When I saw from window, there was garbage dump site. For 3.5k of money, a lot was expected but nothing upto the expectations.“
-Culture25424859907, 9 Dec 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Service need Improvement - Location is good
“The staff here is sloppy, room lacks ambient light at the entrance.Hence makes it an expensive choice.
The only good thing about the hotel is the location. Which some how makes up for the amount you pay.“
-Pulkit S, 21 Aug 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Runs on auto pilot mode
“Worst room service ever seen, maximum time no one will be available at front desk, if you ask for water need follow up twice and 3 times out of 5 no one will answer your call.. Rooms are good. No parking“
-Odyssey48645423266, 14 Jun 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
“The hotel is good in location but they do not provide hot water they do not clean on daily basis the cleanliness is patathetic but the. manager is good in giving false assurance.breakfast is limited not value for money“
-niranjancktk, 30 Dec 2017 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Good location but need to improve hospitality
1. Restaurant was not hygienic.
2. Lift is not working properly.
3. I was expecting good service but it is not up to the mark.
1. 24x7 hot water
2. Near to the city palace.
3. Nice view of Lake from restaurant.“
-vinaytailor27, 22 Apr 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
location is center place. next to jagdish temple. worst breakfast. rooms are small.
“good location, small rooms, budget property but overall good for centre location. bit noisy. worst breakfast with very limited menu. terrace restaurant is worth as it is the highest in udaipur and having lake view“
-Travel55881524023, 11 Jan 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Hotel or Backpackers?
“Lovely people running Treebo but accommodation inadequate for the cost! Nowhere to hang clothes, nor a chest of drawers. Very poor WiFi. The room was not cleaned, the bed was not made up.
However the food on the rooftop restaurant was very good.
No glass in windows, only shutters so extremely noi“ sy at night.
-Elsie472018, 9 Jan 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
My stay at Udai Nivas
“The service by the staff was not up to the mark.Very lackadaisical.The turn around time was way too much for any service rendered either because of inadequacy of staff or may be because of improper training“
-jndrzv7, 23 Dec 2017 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Not fit to be a Tree Bo hotel
“Does not have it's own restaurant. On the web site the photo of the roof top restaurant is an out sourced one. So the B/Fast is served in the room. Donot have staff to provide service. It's done thru temp staff, who are a bit iffy. If U are with a family ,well,should avoid.“
-satish3000, 16 Jan 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Vallabh Vilas
“This is just a family run hotel and not very professional. Present staff was nice and courteous and did their best to save the face. Swimming pool was closed. Poor breakfast with no options for dinner.“
-Avinashmerck, 7 Nov 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Udai Niwas Lake Pichola
Plenty better options in the vicinity.
“There is no fridge in the room. The AC flooded our luggage, and the management didn't do anything about it. Doors don't have interlocks and rely on cheap manual locks. The only silver lining is the roof-top restaurant.“
-Sightseer53316933382, 22 Jun 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Not Recommend At All
“I had a booking of single room for 3 persons. In the room they have a double bed which is very old. Whenever u sit on bed there is loud cracking noise which is very irritating. And if u book a room for three they will make the 3rd person sleep on the floor. Couch is small so u can not even use that.“ Towels were old and hard. Only good thing is restaurant Vairo on terrace which u can visit without booking a room in this property. So plz consider other options not this one. Thanks
-rakeshSingla, 7 Dec 2017 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Bad exeprience - Not recommended
“Please do not book this hotel by just looking at pictures. Rooms are not cleaned, very limited staff. I showed them cockroaches in the room. No proper natural lights and air. As it is backside of Gulaabag garden, they have fully packed the entire hotel with glasses. You can even see insects and bugs“ on room glass window.
-Vijayaroragwl, 9 Oct 2019 Review for Treebo Trend Jhalamaan
Uncleaned room at the time of checkin
“Room was not properly cleaned at the time of check in spit of panmashala was there in dustbin electric kettle was not properly cleaned. Overall service is ok but room must should be cleaned before handing over to customer“
-Manish2802, 29 Sep 2018 Review for Treebo Trend Vallabh Vilas
Very rude Staff and poor Services
“Very rude staff and poor service ,we booked 6 room ,they provide room at different place ,when we request to provide near by rooms they asked for extra money ,they told that cancel rooms from treboo and rebooked here with extra charges. They not provide washroom and stay for driver ,vey bed staff an“ d service
-Vijaybaldha, 4 Nov 2019